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neighbor. >> i'm a neighbor that did what most neighbors would do, which is to jump into action to help a friend, and i consider all of us very lucky. >> new york's corey booker tells his story and weighs in on the trayvon martin case. ♪ i feel the earth move ♪ under my feet >> also, she wrote some of the greatest rock n' roll of all time but carole king's real life is a lot more complicated than her love songs. to think many women say to themselves if i ever got into an abusive relationship, i would be out and you didn't. >> to me, it was shocking. i stayed. and i married him. >> carole king. her darkest days and how she turned her life around. plus, country queen tricia yearwood. what's it really like living with garth brooks? >> here's what really matters. i get up in the morning. and i turn the fog machine on and then he comes up to the floor with a little headset mike and he makes me announce, ladies and gentlemen, garth brooks.
and only in america. the worst business decision of all time. it cost one man $58 billion. this is "piers morgan tonight." good evening. our big story tonight, mayor of newark runs into a burning building to save his next-door neighbor. tonight he gives me a prime time exclusive interview about that extraordinary incident. he also talks to me about gun control, the trayvon martin case and what it's like to have everyone today calling him a superhero. also tonight, my prime time interview with the natural woman carole king. a rock 'n' roll life and the abusive relationship behind the scenes. >> i wanted people to read this in that similar situation and to understand what it was that i was going through. >> what do you say to women who watch this or who read the book who find themselves in that position? should they stay with the man, or should they always leave him
if he abuses her? >> leave! we begin tonight with our big story. the mayor who says he's no superhero, but many disagree. new york's corey booker. mr. mayor, what an extraordinary story that's emerged overnight. congratulations. thank you for your remarkable service to this neighbor of yours. take me back, if you will, to the moment you came home and realized what was happening next door. >> well, thanks, piers. i appreciate being on. when i arrived, two real heroes, guys on my security detail, had already gotten to the house, alerted residents of the fires inside. detective rodriguez, detective duran were able to get pretty much everybody out of the house really by acting quickly, thinking quickly. i got there as the last person was coming down the steps. i went in, and the mother was saying my daughter's still in the house, my daughter's still in the house. me and detective rodriguez went up to the top of the steps. at that point something exploded
and shot sparks and embers all over us. and my security detail just said, you've got to get out of here, mayor. and we had a little bit of a back and forth. and his job is to protect me and i appreciate that. but we had a bit of a tussle and i finally said you've got to let me go or this person's going to die. i'm grateful that he let me go. i just went through the kitchen which was on fire and got into a back room. and at that point things got kind of bad because the smoke i entered into was just really thick. i couldn't see anything. i couldn't locate the woman and then i realized it looked like my exit was blocked as well. and actually fear and terror started sinking into me. almost as if by rescue, i heard her voice call out to me one more time, was able to find her, grabbed her up on my shoulder real quick and just sprinted through the kitchen. and that's where she sustained some injuries, but we got out of the house, and i feel lucky and blessed that she and i are here today. >> yeah. but she must feel even more fortunate and blessed that you did what you did.
it's an incredible act of bravery. i was interested to hear you say you don't feel heroic. you felt terrified. is that the reality when you get caught in that kind of situation? >> yeah. once i convinced my detail to let me go, and then i saw how much the kitchen was ablaze, i thought if i could just punch through the kitchen i'd be okay. but i punched through it and found myself in a situation i didn't know how to get out, so i didn't feel honestly too courageous. i felt a lot of fear bordering on terror. had that first time in my life where i really didn't think i was going to make it because i couldn't breathe, and it looked like i couldn't get back out through that kitchen and i couldn't find her. and it was just a very scary moment for me and thank god almost as if her voice helped me. she started telling me where she was. i was able to find her, breathe in some more of that smoky air, and then i just bolted through, and, you know, she sustained the injuries unfortunately because things
were dropping down from the ceiling which was on fire and mostly got on her exposed back and arms and the like and just on my hand. but we were able to get out, really tumble down the steps. and i've never been more happy in my life to touch terra firma, to touch the pavement. >> quite amazing. you're standing in front of your property, and we're going to zoom now i think to your left which is to where your neighbor lives. it's basically gutted. it's a stone property. so it doesn't seem like it from the outside but on the inside it's been badly damaged by the fire. were you friends with your neighbor? did you know each other well? >> yeah, very well. in fact, they're fantastic people. xena, the woman that i ended up carrying out is like a big sister to me some days. on my toughest days, she always found the right combination between teasing me and lifting me up. so, again, i felt just grateful that we were able to get them out and, frankly, you know, it's neighborliness and i feel if i was in the same situation these are the kind of people that would have done the same
thing to help me out as well. >> i mean the fire experts say that you almost certainly saved her life. what was the first thing she said to you when you got to safety? >> you know, first of all, i think we just wanted to breathe. and when we got to the pavement, i was coughing up all the crap that i'd inhaled. a and, you know, she was very, very disoriented and then final somebody moved us away from the home. then very quickly people heard she was injured, sat her down, took me someplace to get oxygen. to this afternoon, i haven't talked to her. i've talked to her mother a couple times. she actually waited for me when i came home last night from the hospital. so you know, honestly, i feel this sense of gratitude like i've never felt before. i had one of those moments where you felt like you're staring your demise in the face. and i just feel this sense of profound gratitude to god. and i really felt like something got us out of that fire because it really felt like it was all over for me. i felt like we were trapped on all sides.
>> quite incredible. is there any truth to rumors that you're thinking of wearing a cape now at work? >> you know, i appreciate it. that's way over the top, again, it's something i think everybody should do. if anything, my staff thinks i'm not as equipped to do my job anymore because they think if i have to do any firefighter negotiations, i'm going to give those guys everything they ask for, the firefighters union because i have more of an appreciation for them than i've ever had in my life. leaders always talk about the brave fire much fighters, you know, standing in the middle of a smoke-filled house feeling the heat of the blaze, being quite frankly as frightened as i've ever been feeling i was going to die, i have a respect for men and women that do this on a regular basis, weekly basis that i never have before. they are real heroes. i was just very, very fortunate to be in the right place at the right time and, frankly, got myself into a situation that very quickly i didn't think i could get myself out of. so with the grace of god got me
out and i now just want to give thanks to firefighters everywhere around this country. they do incredible things for people at their most vulnerable moments. >> well, i remember your heroic work in the big snowdrifts about 15 months ago. i remember watching with great admiration then. incredible admiration for what you've done now. you're one of those guys back in britain we would say we'd want to be next to you in the trenches, mr. mayor. that's how i would sum your behavior up. >> i appreciate what a lot of people are saying. it's a little bit over the top. the real heroes in my book last night were detective duran and detective rodriguez who acted so quickly, evacuated the house, put themselves in harm's way. >> yeah, i know. i absolutely agree with that. all of you were heroes last night. and that woman is incredibly lucky to be alive and i'm sure she will reflect that when she next talks to you. if we could move on, mr. mayor, just to briefly discuss the trayvon martin case because there's a lot of contention now. george zimmerman's obviously been arrested and charged with
second-degree murder. there's a rising debate, not about the race aspect of this, but about the stand your ground law, which exists now in nearly half the states in america. what is your view as a mayor of a big city in america of the stand your ground law? >> well, i'm somebody who lives in the state of new jersey where we don't have such a law. i don't see that it's necessary. you don't have people who are not using deadly force for some reason where a law like that would have advantaged them. so i'm very suspicious of its need and i think it creates situations often where a person can shoot first and really not have to explain their behavior. but i really want to say something. the gun battle in america is really out of control and very frustrating to me. this is a situation where i believe there was a deep injustice done, and now it seems like the wheels of justice are working in the right way. but i really have no worries about people with -- law-abiding citizens in the state of new
jersey who have guns. we've only been able to find one shooting the entire time i've been here that was done by somebody that acquired a gun illegally. the majority of crimes in newark are done by people that acquire illegal guns. there's so much work we need to did in america in keeping illegal guns out of the hands of criminals. we have a virginia tech every single day in this country that's preventable. i wish we could just come together as a nation and focus on those gun laws that if they were changed, and, by the way, i work with a group of mayors that have done polling and shown that the majority of gun owners believe that certain laws should be changed like background checks at gun shows like getting rid of the terrorist loophole if i'm on the no-fly list in america and not safe enough to take a plane, i can still go to a gun show and buy a gun or the fire sale loophole, which means if i get shut down by the atf for not doing background checks, i can take my entire inventory and sell it to whomever i want. there's all these areas most americans agree, majority of gun owners agree we should change to make this nation safer.
so i know there's a lot of focus on the stand your ground law. i have feelings on that. we don't need it here in new jersey. what infuriates me is the level of violence that we have in america that's preventible and that most american, republicans and democrat, gun owners or not can agree on commonsense solutions, but we can't even get together as a nation to do the obvious things that would keep guns out of the hands of criminals. >> well, mr. mayor, you're speaking a lot of sense as always. it's a great pleasure to talk to you not just about gun control, but also what you did last night. thank you again for that. it really was quite remarkable. and i really appreciate you coming on the show. >> no, piers, i appreciate you. and i appreciate you focusing on this topic. we have a tremendous lot of violence in our community, and we need to start talking to each other, not yelling at each other to solve some of the problems because more than not, we are neighbors in this country, and we actually have more alike than we have that we disagree on. so i appreciate you bringing these topics to the forefront and thanks for bringing your cameras into newark, new jersey.
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that all those songs were co-written with gerry goffin. credit where do. >> you may as well but behind every man is a better woman. the thing that really fascinates me about this book is you've had these pivotal moments in your life where you've done these crazy things but actually i suspect have made you have a life that's been a lot richer than others. and the classic example i think you just did "tapestry" or were just about to do "tapestry." there you were in california. everyone is going crazy for you, selling millions of albums. you suddenly think, no, i'm going to go to idaho. >> that was not right after "tapestry." >> when was that exactly? >> it was 1976 -- '5 or '6 when i started to seriously look to go to idaho. "tapestry" was 1971. but my way of coping with it and having a life, i love that you like twigged right to that, having a life was, well, the fame was swirling around me and
i was living in laurel canyon. i was with charlie larky. my second husband, my bass player as well. we had had our first child together. i already had the two goffin daughters. and i really centered myself in my family, so i wasn't doing lots of interviews and going to lots of parties and doing whatever people who are famous are supposed to do. >> you didn't even go to the grammys to get the awards for "tapestry." >> i did not. lou adler accepted them for me. >> you stayed with your family in california. so you had this amazing life in california and the sun is shining and you think, no, i'm going -- so "tapestry" would have sold 25 million copies by now. it's been in the charts for four or five years. something ridiculous. >> it was i think the longest female album -- >> ever. >> -- atop of the charts until adele. >> oh, really. >> she overtook that record and you know what, power to her. she's so wonderful. >> what did you think of that moment then? >> i think it's just great. i thought, how great.
because as i said, i'm 70 and it's time to pass the torch and to such a fine, fine artist. and a lot less messed up, unfortunately, you know, amy winehouse. i didn't know that amy winehouse was a fan of mine. she recorded "will you love me tomorrow." >> she was a huge fan of yours. >> she was a huge fan. i didn't know that. >> my brother-in-law was her sax player. >> oh, really. >> yes, in her band so i know for a fact she was a big fan of yours. >> yeah. i just wished i could have reached out and just said, you don't need to do this. but i'm sure many have tried. >> it was said about you that throughout the '70s when you were owning all this money -- you were not going to parties but hanging out with a lot of people living the life to success, but you were like at the orgy but you were the one watching as a kind of overview. >> when i was -- not literally, of course. >> figuratively speaking.
>> figuratively. absolutely. >> you preferred not to get involved in the seedier kind of stuff. >> yeah. there was the get back to the land sort of -- we laugh at that now in the austin powers movies and everything but i really did. >> this is why idaho to me is so crucial to me coming through in this book. you're at the height of your fame and "tapestry" is one of the greatest albums of all time. you're making all this money and you just uproot and you go and live in idaho for three years, and you just live off the land. i mean you're doing stuff as your friends at the time said to you, you can get people to do this. you could pay people. but you wanted to do it. to lead a life of often freezing cold. no electricity. no televisions. >> snowed in all winter. teaching my own children. >> what was it -- tell me what that was like, this life-changing time for you. >> well, it was an adventure. i mean people would say, why would you want to go do that because i met this man, rick sorensen, who, you know, lived in this very remote place or was living even more remote but sort of came together in this one place. and i thought of it as an adventure.
and it was. it was a remarkable adventure. my kids had a little harder time, my younger kids had a harder time because they didn't want to be there. i chose to be there. but in spite of that, they got so much out of it, and the teaching was just totally fun for all of us. we did an accredited home schooling program. i was going to be a teacher before my career went in another direction. and it was just great. and the most important thing i taught my children was to love learning. and they were all readers. they all love learning. and i now still live in idaho. i live in a place that is less remote, and i have all the modern, you know, satellite tv and i get to watch you live. >> well, what a rare treat for you, carole. >> absolutely. let's take a little break. i want to come back and talk to you about men. it would be fair to say you've had some good times and some not so good times. >> that would be correct. >> let's discuss this after the break. ♪ i feel the earth move under my
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you make me feel you make me feel like a natural woman ♪ "natural woman" by carole king. you know, carole, that might just be the greatest love song ever. it might be. >> first of all, i want to say thank you and, second of all, i want to say title by jerry wexler and lyrics by gerry goffin so a man actually wrote the lyrics. >> when you sang that song and you look back at yourself there, knowing now what happened to your life then, what do you feel? >> i feel, first of all, i'm younger than all my daughters are now. i was so young. and i just feel good. and then, of course, when charlie came on the screen, yeah, it was hard. charlie and i are still friends. we still have a deep, abiding love for each other. we share children and
grandchildren and i refer to that in the book as the unconventional success story, even though we're not still together in the conventional sense. >> you've been married four times now? >> yes. >> and quite searing stuff in here about your marriage to rick. where you talk about -- >> there are two ricks. but rickers. >> right, rickers, and this was your second husband. >> no. >> third husband? >> third husband. gerry goffin, charlie larky, rick evers which is the one you'll be talking about. >> were you an incurable romantic? >> yes. hope sprung eternal. i always see on your show, you always say have you ever been properly in love? >> yes, every time. in your case i mean, come on, how many times have you been properly in love? did you marry every man you were properly in love with? >> no. the last two i didn't. >> if i could have trapped you on a desert island with one man in your life that you had a relationship with, who would it be? >> i don't know.
i mean, i'm not with anybody now. and that's kind of who i would be with is me. >> rick evers, husband number three. he abused you. and you talked very openly and directly about that in here. but you also make the point which i think many women say to themselves, if i ever got into that kind of abusive relationship, i'd be out. and you didn't. and you're very honest about that. tell me about the conflict that happens when you're strong about it and then it happens to you. >> well, you know, that is the point. the line is, i would never be with someone like that until i was. but here's the more shocking point, i suppose. to me, it was shocking after the fact. i stayed. and i married him after i knew about this. >> why? >> again, hope springs eternal. but the dynamic, that's really the answer, i think, that hope sprang eternal. but the answer is not that simple.
and it's really difficult to like wrap -- it took a while to write it. and i wasn't even sure i was going to include it in the book. but the reason that i did is that i wanted people to read this in that similar situation and to understand what it was that i was going through. >> what do you say to women who watch this or who read the book who find themselves in that position? should they stay with the man or should they always leave him if he abuses her? >> leave! >> just don't think it will change, because it won't? >> no, no. i mean -- but, again, i can't give advice to any person because i don't know her or his individual situation. but the thing i do put in the book after i tell all the process, and it was really complicated -- i can't just put it in a short bite. but the important thing to me was the write it, to be honest and to communicate to people out there that if -- if you are someone who is in that
situation, get help. help is available. i have a box that says, you know -- and the other reason i did it is because i was successful. i was financially successful. i was famous. i was, you know, a capable, reasonably intelligent woman and all these things. >> you had no reason to stay. nothing grabbing you to stay other than your emotions. >> exactly. i wasn't trapped. i could have left. and i make the point in the book. >> it's a book -- although that's a serious part of the book -- notable, judging by all the reviews i read, for its complete lack of any bitterness or sort of salacious gossip. it's very much -- it's a soft book. it's a reflective book of someone who's had a pretty amazing life in many ways, haven't you? >> thank you for getting that about me because i don't have bitterness. i mean, i get mad if somebody, you know, does something -- you know, this whole justice thing going on now. i mean, politics, things like that make me mad and then i just kind of go,
what can i do about it? what can i change? and if i can't, why be bitter? >> what would be the moment -- if i had the power to let you relive a moment in your life, it can't be marriage -- certainly not marriage in your case. we'd be here all night. it can't be marriage or having kids. what would be the moment you'd relive? what's been the greatest moment of your life? >> piers, i've had so many great moments, honestly, it's hard to pick one. >> give me one. give me a little -- >> i think -- this is not the one, but of the moments, it is my kids. it's the joy i feel in having watched each and every one of them grow up to be a person that i would have wanted them to be and more. they were all my good, good friends. if i need them, they're there. they're wonderful people and we've all become just great friends. >> thanksgiving and christmas and stuff like that, is there a moment when the piano gets wheeled out? >> oh, god, i hope not >> and mom starts to belt out "natural woman"? >> quite the opposite. quite the opposite. i just keep all that separate. actually, my family is more likely to wheel out whatever instruments because many of them
if not all of them are musical so they'll wheel out the stuff and i'll watch. >> all of these songs, "will you love me tomorrow," "the locomotion," "take good care of my baby" and "one fine day" all of the great songs you've written or co-written, which is the one for you? >> i will answer that by saying, again, it's hard to pick one but i will tell you there are probably two that are the ones for people. i think "you've got a friend" is the most -- the song that gives -- it's the gift that keeps on giving to people and in turn to me because i get so much joy. and i write in the book at a concert, you know, after i play "you've got a friend," people -- tears are streaming down their faces. republicans are hugging democrats. it's true. truly, i've done them at some political functions. and then for that 5 minutes and 12 second, everybody's getting along. >> isn't that an amazing power to have? that you can do that through the power of music?
>> well, it's not my power. that's why, it comes through me. >> what's the other song? >> the other one, which i wrote -- i co-wrote with ms. toni stern, she wrote the lyric. "it's too late." so many people say your song "it's too late" got me through my divorce. and that is so meaningful and then there's "natural woman" where people, you know, come up, and they sort of say, you know, little joey here was conceived to it. you know, i'm like tmi. la la la la la la la. >> and we haven't mentioned james taylor. tell me just very quickly about you and james. >> there are two times when i met james. the first time it was sort of he felt awkward, i felt awkward and he wasn't quite present. the second time when i met him in peter asher's house, there was this sense of butter, just like fitting together. our music just fit together. we just sat down and started playing our songs, other
people's songs. and it's kind of been like that. i could see him, you know, i could not see him for years, and then we get together to do some benefit for fund-raiser or something. it's like, oh, yeah, and we play together. and that's what happened on the troubadour reunion tour. when we got together, it was pure joy. for 60 gigs in a row. >> amazing. two things i want to mention before we go. one is the book, "a natural woman." a fantastically entertaining book. you've had an amazing life. >> and i wrote every word myself. there's no ghost. that's why it took almost 12 years. >> that's why it's quite well written. >> thank you. >> and secondly the legendary demo is out, carole. beautiful pictures and amazing recordings of the songs. it's been a real pleasure to meet you. >> thank you. thank you so much. really appreciate it. >> thank you, carole. coming up, singing a different tune. country queen tricia yearwood on life with her husband, garth brooks. ... you know, those farmers, those foragers, those fishermen...
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♪ daddy says he ain't worth a lick when it comes to brains he got the short end of the stick ♪ a triple grammy-winning country superstar married to a guy, you might have heard of him. he's in the same sort of genre, garth brooks. she also has two books and a new series on the food network. "trish's southern kitchen" and she joins us.
i decided to fit this into two things. music and love, and then food. >> i like it. >> three things dear to my heart. >> cool, it all goes together. >> how does that sound? >> it sounds good. >> i want to talk about garth straight off the top. let's talk about the elephant in the room here. you're one of the most famous country singers ever and you're married to one of the most famous country singers ever. i have to start at the top. your husband and i have never met but i feel like i know him really well. and the reason is for the last six years on "america's got talent," i have seen more acts murdering your husband's songs than probably any other musician or singer alive. if i have to hear one more if i have to hear one more if i have to hear one more if i have to hear one more version of -- ♪ if tomorrow never comes it gave me severe earaches. i'd like to apologize to him via you for the massacres of his music. >> at least you feel like you have a connection with him now. that's a good thing. you sort of just massacred that yourself there. >> it was pretty awful. >> it was bad. >> it wasn't as bad as when i tried to sing "hello" to lionel richie. that was a total train wreck. this was slightly better, i think. >> were you really trying? >> i always like to make the guests feel like they're the star. >> yeah.
>> you know, contrary to public perception. so i think with you and lionel, make you think you're better singers. >> ego boosters. that's nice of you. >> you've sold 10 million albums? >> something like that. >> what is it like? when you're at home, and i know for a fact, because we have a mutual friend that we've discussed when we came out here who tells me that garth is so attached to his family, literally in his show in vegas he has a deal with a private jet which zooms him straight back home usually straight after each show and back to his next show. his amazing commitment to what he really cares about in life, which is his family. when you're all at home, given you're one of the great singers and he's one of the great singers, is it what i hope it would be? when you come down in the morning at like 7:00 in the morning, you know, the dogs go running out. the chickens are running around. and you two sit there and start singing over your conflicts? >> no, here's what really happens. i get up in the morning, and i turn the fog machine on. he comes up to the floor with a headset mike.
and i have to -- he makes me announce, ladies and gentlemen, garth brooks. no, not really. >> do you ever sing at home? >> we do. we do. >> for fun? >> yeah, absolutely. >> like i come down and sing in the shower very badly until my wife tells me to stop. >> we to. if you were to walk into my living room right now there would probably be a guitar propped up against the couch that got pulled out from a case somewhere because we don't -- we don't sit around and just, hey, we're just going to sing today. but it just is a natural thing. people who truly love to sing have to do it all the time. and one of our daughters loves to sing and she plays guitar. it's always happening in the house. it's cool. it's a cool environment. it's cool when your husband starts to sing some old merle haggard song and i can pop in with a harmony and we don't sound too bad. >> when did you know that garth was the man for you? was there a moment? >> i think there was an instant the day that i met him 21 years ago, a connection there. you know? and i don't think that i -- a friendship formed that was like the other side of me.
we were singing demos together and we were -- had just met and we were singing on the microphone and we were doing the same licks. it was like it felt like it was that meeting somebody that you felt you had known your whole life. i didn't know at that point i would end up being married to him and there would be a much deeper connection. >> you were really good friends for a long time? >> yes. and i really think -- and i haven't had the best track record in relationships because i tended to jump into things. and i think being friends with somebody for so long before we were a couple, we were friends. so we told each other stuff wed's never tell somebody we were dating. we knew so much about each other as friends before we ever went on a real date. and so there's that foundation that a lot of people don't get because they don't -- they skip that part. >> but if you've had so many years as friend, what's the moment like when you suddenly both realize it's going to be something else? >> i don't even know how to describe it. there's kind of always that thing that you kind of admit later. kind of like admitting to yourself, well, when he would call the house for you to come
sing on a record, my face would turn red listening to the answering machine. you know, the things that i would never admit to myself that later i went back and went, i always was kind of on pins and needles around him and i didn't really address it. >> he must have been with you quietly. >> he was, of course, madly in love with me. >> you were both married to other people. >> right. so it just wasn't an option. you know, so i think when it became an option i know in my head, i thought, you know, this may be the biggest mistake i ever made in my life but if i don't go down the path and find out, i'll never know. i'm going to go for it and see what happens. i really did not expect it to turn out well. and it's been amazing. i mean i'm happier than i've ever been in my whole life. >> and he certainly seems to be. in a sense that it's not easy being highly paid professional successful singers in the modern world. it's a hard, rigorous lifestyle. as i say, i come back to the way garth does that vegas extravaganza. many people go and live in vegas. he doesn't do that. he chooses to come home. that must make a big difference. >> well, and we have made a choice as a couple because we
both were touring heavily when we were married before. and we weren't home much. he always says, why should we be together to be apart? and so i drastically cut back my touring when we started seeing each other just to see how this would work. one of the reasons i wrote the cookbooks was so i could be at home more than being on the road. it's a balance. but we choose to. we are in a position that is good that we can choose to be home when we want to be home. and we travel together 99% of the time. you know, so we've made that choice. that may not have been a choice we would have made 20 years ago. so it's kind of good that it all happened now. >> and you eat food together. >> we do. >> which is a very, very clumsy link to part two of this interview coming off the break. we're going to start talking about food. >> okay. >> good, wholesome southern food. >> okay. you know a lot about that? >> no. but i want to hear about it. >> okay. ♪ she's in love with the boy and even if they have to run away
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you're telling me i can eat all this? is this even remotely healthy? >> no. >> is this like a great, big, old-fashioned southern pigout? >> i'm telling you eat this and tomorrow you have a grape and you will even everything out. >> but i love this. this is the kind of food i love eating. most of the people who bring food to me, i get fed squeaky clean guacamole by eva longoria. healthy mojitos from charlize theron. >> but look at those women. >> exactly. you brought me some proper grub. >> well, the thing is, the whole idea of the books came from real recipes that my mother and my grandmothers made and passed down from generation to generation. i would love to eat fried chicken every day. i don't. but these are the special occasions, traditional comfort food dishes that my family has always made. >> which is your favorite of all this? >> i'm a salt girl. so i would go for the chicken. >> this is like good old-fashioned slabs of fried chicken. >> yeah. >> fantastic. >> you held up an entire breast.
>> you pile it with a big fattening cake. >> this is key lime cake, so it's actually fruit really. >> what is that? >> sweet tea. not like the tea you had. and what are these little cupcakes? >> these are biscuits, basically. >> so if i eat all of this, i'll die, but with a smile on my face? >> absolutely. >> this is so refreshing. i spend a lot of time in los angeles. if you even order one of those drumsticks, they take you to the cedars-sinai hospital, you know? if you have tea with it, they think you're overdrinking. >> we were in l.a. as a family and one of my daughters ordered a salad. you could get it with the crispy chicken or grilled chicken. she got it with the crispy chicken. the waiter commented, oh, that's so refreshing. no one ever orders -- i'm thinking here we are. the little southerner ordering it with the crispy chicken on it. >> tell me about food in your family. it's nice there's such a family link to all this. >> the way i grew up is, you
know, i grew up in a very small town. you went to school and church and football games, and that's kind of it. no movie theater, nothing to do. everything really revolved around family. we sat around the table and my mother and father had a job but there was always a meal on the table at 6:00. we had a garden so had fresh vegetables. and even lived on a farm where we killed our own beef and killed our own chickens. we did it all. >> did you do that? >> i packaged the meat but i didn't -- no, i didn't do any of that and i learned after the first pig to not name the pig. you don't want to do that. you don't want to do. >> but what is the dish -- i'm told that garth's favorite is a particular type of chocolate cake. >> yes. >> that he only used to get on his birthday but you may be expanding the days he's had that. >> he's pitiful. i make it for his birthday. it's a german chocolate cake with a coconut pecan frosting but his birthday is in
february so along about this time of year after, you know, he's just had his birthday. a few months later he'll start talking about it. i guess i only have to wait nine more months before i get to have that cake again. >> he'll start singing "if the cake never comes." >> if the cake never comes, so if he gets all sad then i'll make the cake and now he's doing the thing where he's like i love the german chocolate cake and i can't decide if i want that or carrot cake for my birthday and i'll make both so i don't know what it's going to be next year. so he totally racks up. >> how do you equate this gorgeous food which i would devour in an instant and probably will the moment the interview is over with the need for america for people to probably eat less of this stuff? >> yes. if you watch the show, you'll see that we -- this is a tribute to the history of my family, so -- and i say in the show, and i've said in the book, you know, this is something that tells where this food came from, but it's not saying this is is the way -- we all know we're
trying to eat better, so in knew daily life we don't eat this way every day. if there's fried chicken in my house, i'm going to have fried chicken. most of the time we try to eat more fruits and vegetables and grains and the things that we know we're supposed to eat for good health. >> even as you're eating this stuff, you're quietly thinking fried chicken? >> oh, sure. it's somewhere in there. somewhere in there, yeah. >> well, look, i love this. i love the fact that you cook this kind of thing. i think the book is terrific, you have this great show, "trisha's southern kitchen" that premieres on the food network every saturday at 10:30 eastern. thank you very much. >> thank you very much. >> i look forward to munching this the moment i get you out of here. coming up, only in america. you've heard all the stories about people who got in on the ground floor at apple and ended up millionaires, billionaires. well, this is the story of a man who could have made billions but didn't. americans are always ready to work hard for a better future.
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>> i was adopted. and i felt that i wanted to adopt a kid that needed a home. my son was in foster care for four years. that was his 12th home, but from the minute michael and i met, i knew right away we would be family. i thought everything was going great, but after a month michael was removed from my house. i was instantly cut off from him. >> finding that family for that child, it's nothing short of a miracle. >> let's go. >> you need to get ready for the horses. >> and sometimes families are faced with barriers because of a myth or a misunderstanding, causing the kids to stay in the foster care system longer. being gay or lesbian, individual or couple, makes it much harder. my name is david. i adopted from the foster system and now i help other gay and
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tonight it's only in america. how are you feeling, bad day at work? weather getting you down again? at least you're not ron wayne. ron is 78 years old and is a simple quiet life in nevada. he keeps busy with his stamp collection. he plays the slots at the vegas casinos and he drives a 2002 chevy malibu. he's a retired engineer. he doesn't really have a lot to complain about, except that on this day every year he has cause to reflect on a business decision that didn't seem that big of a deal at the time but turned into, well, something rather bigger than he could have ever imagined. you see on april the 1st, 1976, ron began a company with a couple of friends. you may have heard of them, steve jobs and steve wozniak and the firm was of course, called apple and ron's cut was 10% of the business but he wasn't sure. doubts began to grow in his head and just two weeks later ron
bailed out for $800. that moment exactly 36 years ago today may just have been the single most catastrophic business mistake in the history of planet earth because today that 10% stake in apple would be worth -- wait for it -- $58 billion. if ron had been just a little more patient, he'd now be one of the richest two or three people alive. the man himself has never bought a single apple product in his life is putting a brave face on it. >> what can i say? i mean, you make a decision based upon your understanding of the circumstances, and you live with it. that's the best you can do. there's nothing you can do about yesterday. >> no, i guess there isn't, but like i said, no matter how bad your day has been, spare a thought for ron wayne. that's all for us tonight.